Clan war restructure idea

Obviously to many in clans, the war system is not working to it's full potential. IMHO, it needs to be radically altered to be of any real use, or maybe even abolished all together.

I have thought of a idea, (which needs a lot of fine tuning of course) but may be something that can be built on from the gaming community here.

The idea:
Have a clan war that is spread over the time of a month. Randomly every hour 3 members from both warring clan will enter into a battle based on their combined total XP, or as close to such as possible from those online. They battle it out much in the same ways as arena, where the winner of the duel gains X amount of RP towards the clan they are in. At the end of the month, the one clan with the highest amount of RP gained in said duels is the victor in the war.



The Pros:
* This idea will enable all members to be able to clan battle, and not worry about lvl restrictions on the opposing clans members, like Pking does.

* A structure of such will also allow everyone in their clan to truely fight for the RP amount to gain runes.

* A balanced and for the most part fair way to obtain RP, and at the same time, allow those that can't make payment in gold the chance to be able to get in clans that have better runes, that they maybe could not before.

* Gets rid of the need to have alt clans made, to combat and gain RP.

* Clans can be done even for Ns that can and should be equally effective.



The Cons:
* Those that stay online for bliss, AH sales, ect, and are away from the computer will obviously fall in combat quickly, which will leave things up to chance more. Creating a bit of a chaos factor.

* These duels will put members randomly out of mob fights, duels, pking, in the exact same manner as arena. Also will take members out of group to be paired up equally in such combat.

* Drops the number of total clans greatly due to alt clans.



Please feel free to add your 2 cents, button & pocket lint, ect. to the idea, and maybe this might even be something put into place to better the game as a whole.

Thanks in advance.

[Thomas Jordan]

Don't know if this is the solution, but it would be better than what we have now.

TJ

Expanding on the idea:

Territory & Dominance can come into play with such as well. Each 24 hours the clan with the most RP gain/wins, can get maybe a % decrease on Town items such as Gates, recalls, weapons, suits, as well as maybe even a chance to have a higher amount of XP Rush went using the trophies in the alters, and turning in quests.

[Ballrog]

Some very interesting Ideas, Gore. Perhaps adding a choice of 1 vs. 1, 2 vs. 2 and 3 vs. 3 will help if not many toons from a clan are online.

The combined EXP. is a must for the clan battles to be fair (not based on lvl).

Once a month victor in wars will require an overhall of the existing clan war programming. Loosing all territory, dom. and rp will destroy a clan in 1 month. Perhaps removing/altering these restrictions is needed. Say, at end of the month, the losing clan loses a % of their remaining rp. After 'x' amount of months losing wars, they lose war and clan is defeated. Another idea is to extend the war to a set amount of time (like 3 or 4 months). The losing clan would then be defeated and lose everything.

More food for thought...

cheers

imho, people actually need runes and the war system is not that bad (tried a few real wars myself).

I see 2 main problems with wars.

1 - They can be infinite wars unless a clan is really in very bad shape, but u can allways donate rp and keep it going. There should be a time limit or an alternate way to get into a war and have a winner. Idk, wars should be possible to be agreed up to some specific rp winning (with limits) or time. And the winner gets to have some % of the terr and dom of the defeated clan. If the risk is too high for a clan they will not want to join.

2 - Alt Clan wars... lets be honest, most if not all of the higher clans have alt clans to get their rp, dom and terr, so its basically all a matter of how much gold u put into it, sure, it gets effort to be doing a lot of clan battles to reach the dom and terr, but at then end u are doing safe fights with no risk. If there was a way to make it very difficult to do an alt clan war.. idk, IP based...serious penalties if a toon with same ip is in both clans, etc, people would be forced to do real wars, as they want the runes activated. At the end, people will find a way to get over any restriction if they really want to avoid real wars, specially as u can have multiple characters, so i could give 500k golg to a friends alt clan and they give me back 500K to my alt clan.. i really dont see a good solution to avoid alt clan wars, so i only see solutions to make it less painfull to have real wars:

1 - Limits to war
2 - killed player does not go to town or have the option not to
3 - Less penalty for clan when loosing a war
4 - Conceding war for a fee

About the idea on initial post, i dont think exp is a good way to group people... take for instance a high player that gets killed, hes got uber high exp from non combat skills, that can pair him as lvl 5 with a lvl 70 or 80 player? maybe use only combat experience?

[Jon]

Best solution to the 'war problem' is for everyone to get drunk regularly or grow some testicles

[flipynifty]

or to ignore the chest beating coming from merc lmao

[Jon]

Originally Posted by flipynifty

or to ignore the chest beating coming from merc lmao

or the mewling from a loser like you..

lmao

[Smashbros]

i disagree with the exp part.

im lvl 84 atm (will be perma cap soon) and i only have 7bil exp. there are some lvl 70s with more exp then me.

also id like to enter reroller as evidence

he was pkked. is now lvl 10. he has 3,323,572,000 exp.

now he would have no chance against the lvl 80 Ecstasy with 3,291,285,000 exp.

see how it could screw you over more??

id base it on lvl over exp for that reason, people at the same lvl will have a better chance of winning compared to exp, as there are crafters and what not who dont do any better based on exp as that exp gained is useless in combat

[Smashbros]

**** you lag making double posts

I dont like this idea sorry... but i do agree that clan wars need a restructure

I liked the arena idea that glitch posted a while back but there was to much complaining unfortunately

[Smashbros]

Originally Posted by yoky

I dont like this idea sorry... but i do agree that clan wars need a restructure

I liked the arena idea that glitch posted a while back but there was to much complaining unfortunately

there is yet to be an update that hasnt had people complaining about.

[flipynifty]

lmao @ jon, such a defensive little girl

[orderr]

I like open PVP that can take place anywhere and not just in arenas, the one real war I was in was half decent, there just needs to be a lot more of them.

I think the current clan war system could work, if you put in some sort of a significant bonus, like a free +30 member expansion, to any clan that allows all other clans to force war on them.

[Monu]

How about Glitchelss gives us all 25 million dom/territory and let us stop squabbling?



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