Piercer Buff? (want ppls opinion)

I now that piercers are highly dependent on bloodlet (hemorrhage) and poisonbolt.

I wanted to get people's opinion on poisonbolt though, I personally feel that 10% flat rate is a bit on the low side...this should be buffed up to 15% flat rate. I understand that 150 damage (maxed) is pretty decent and shouldn't be abused but I dunno... 100% chance for hemorrhage (maxed) seems pretty buff (2H weapon of course) but if you only have a 1H weapon then it's down to 33% which is a real big dent.

Yes I know you can duel wield a weapon but i wanted to get some peoples opinion on this...don't you feel that 10% is low?

honestly I think every person thinks their class of char needs to be buffed...If you want to get some action out of the mods then your best bet is to show some actual proof in #'s.

show how a dual wielding piercer gets pwnd badly every time by an evenly skilled warrior or other class char or weapon wielder. if the difference is great you may get a buff. just my 2 cents.

ok from here on out after epic dmg gems NO MORE BUFFS AND NERFS PLEASE


unless u wanna give all of melee an accuracy bonus of .01% for each lvl

rofl pasterqb....i dunno if that's enough 2 make up for the epic nurf

I dunno, i still feel there are some classes that could use SLIGHT (key word) buff's...not outrageous ****, just little things that would make a class more enticing

btw: i'm a Paladin Piercer...how do u think i feel

[Hunters Bane]

Rogues get a class bonus to poisoning effects. Poisonbolt = poison effect.

Pierces' WEAPONS need an increase in damage, maybe to max damage?

[Relic]

It is well known that Piercers are the weakest Melee based class
and in my opinion this applies to PvP and PvE alike.
They do need a buff, but i fear Glitchless will overdo it and make them Over Powered, so if this is being considered by Glitchless, i urge them to test, test, and test again instead of just "eyeballing" it, like what was done with the Crushing Nerf.

I also have some objections with glitchlesses "balancing" of weapon classes.
Because if all 3 weapon classes are equally matched in PvP and PvP, this game will become more, and more lame as time goes on. Because it wouldent matter which weapon class you use, you still get the same effects,
So I suggest going back to the way it use to be instead of complete balance.
Because thats just boring and lame in myopinion.

I suggest making it this way:

Pierce: Best weapons and skills for PvE

Slashing: Balanced weapons and skills for PvE and PvP

Crushing: Best weapons and skills for PvP

This way, you have to choose, instead of picking first thing that comes to mind.
If you want to be awsome at killing bosses and mobs, you should go Pierce.
Want to be able to pwn pvp, and still be able to kill mobs? go slashing.
Want to be 100% PvP but lack the speed to kill in PvE effectively? go crushing.

Moral of this post is, BALANCE IS BORING AND LAME.

Thanks, -Relic

[Melusinenyxie]

Moral of this post is, BALANCE IS BORING AND LAME.

I totally agree

Originally Posted by Hunters Bane

Rogues get a class bonus to poisoning effects. Poisonbolt = poison effect.

Is this correct? Rogues’ class description states they get a bonus to poison gem damage. Do you play a rogue, Hunter? If it works with puncture, what about poison arrow?

[Kerrlahg]

Originally Posted by Nosebatter

Is this correct? Rogues’ class description states they get a bonus to poison gem damage. Do you play a rogue, Hunter? If it works with puncture, what about poison arrow?

No, it does not work on the Puncture/Poisonbolt proc. It is just a static amount of damage based on the skill level and does not benefit from any damage enhancements (not even the +dmg rune). The name "Poisonbolt" is slightly deceptive, should be something like "Ouch! My Liver!".

Not positive about poison arrow, but I don't think it benefits from the class bonus either. From what I know, weapon procs do not benefit from such bonuses; they are standalone and do not get processed the same as normal weapon or gem damage.

[RogueTigeR]

Originally Posted by Hunters Bane

Rogues get a class bonus to poisoning effects. Poisonbolt = poison effect.

Pierces' WEAPONS need an increase in damage, maybe to max damage?

unless i am incorrect the rogue bonus is only to gem damage...or atleast that is how it is stated by glitchless

i am all for a pierce buff...maybe for a little faster delay thou

[RogueTigeR]

bump.... Pierce needs your help Glitchless!!!

S.O.S were beginning to sink against everyone, the other melee, archery, casters, and even whip users are killing piercers left and right.

my suggestion is a slightly faster delay.

http://forums.nodiatis.com/forums/id...erce-buff.html

Buff the pierce! I'm a piercing Guardian, it's too hard! Make them a slightly more powerful, it'll help a lot.
*switches back to DW'ing lvl 14 Slashers 'cause Piercing is too weak for me*

[Hunters Bane]

wtf? @ the last post

haha nice spam and no whoever asked Jeff didnt allow me to equip 4 legs yet

Originally Posted by Pasterqb

haha nice spam and no whoever asked Jeff didnt allow me to equip 4 legs yet

I think a muzzle would work wonders.

is j00 momma still using hers Sherman if not i will gladly take it for a quarter

well, as long as we're on the topic of sherman's mother, i agree - a pierce buff is needed.

on a more serious note though - i really like the idea of faster hitting. alternatively, a boost to poisonbolt would also be nice. the slash proc is, at max, 21 extra damage per hit on average, as opposed to poisonbolt's 15. in addition, the slash proc is 60 right away, whereas poisonbolt begins at 1.5. personally i'd prefer a .1% chance for 150 over a 10% chance for 1.5.

Sherman u are an idiot dont insult me if you cant take an insult