Pally PvE DPS Maths
Old 03-12-2019, 02:06 PM   #1
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Did some quick maths and found that T3 Tomahammer/Kris with Tier 5 Aliangel BP is less DPS than T3 Toma/LoD with Tier 2 DS BP (for Paladin/DK).

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1EI...BHBRqjqRPCMhVl

I'm wondering, is there any reason to try melee as Pally or is it better to just go for Kok BM?

BM/DK gets around 8.95% more pet DPS than Pally/BM with identical gear.

Is there any reason to be pally for PvE at all?

I guess maybe at very high tiers of Badgers and Tomahammer, the DPS scaling would lean more towards melee so it'd be worth going melee over whip in the off-hand.
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Old Delay/(1+haste%) = New Delay

For slow effects, use the slow % but as a negative.

Just repeat for multiple effects.

DO NOT multiply by 1+slow% to get your new delay. 1*1.4 is not the same as 1/0.6 and your answer will be wrong.

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Old 03-12-2019, 02:24 PM   #2
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By comparision, with Tier V Koks, a single stalker will be doing more DPS than the combined melee and pet DPS of the melee setup. So I don't know why I'm even asking if Kok BM is better.
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Old Delay/(1+haste%) = New Delay

For slow effects, use the slow % but as a negative.

Just repeat for multiple effects.

DO NOT multiply by 1+slow% to get your new delay. 1*1.4 is not the same as 1/0.6 and your answer will be wrong.
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Old 03-12-2019, 09:01 PM   #3
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Pally is not a DPS class.
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Old 03-12-2019, 09:34 PM   #4
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And I made a typo which threw my results off. Toma/Kris using Sharp 5 / Pet Haste 5 / Rabid 5 and 2 badgers is marginally better than Toma/LoD and badger/stalker with the same gems.

I wasn't saying pally was a DPS class, I was just wondering if there was a reason to try to build around auras for DPS. For the most part, the answer seems to be no.

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Also when referring to T5 Koks giving a single stalker more DPS than an entire melee build, that was comparing pally to pally with my melee setup gear. Those maths were slightly wrong, and each individual stalker is only equal to about 66% of the sum total of a melee DPS (132% with 2 stalkers).

But yeah, I think pets alone doing 32% more damage than melee and pets combined might make koks the best choice for most PvE builds.
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Old Delay/(1+haste%) = New Delay

For slow effects, use the slow % but as a negative.

Just repeat for multiple effects.

DO NOT multiply by 1+slow% to get your new delay. 1*1.4 is not the same as 1/0.6 and your answer will be wrong.

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