Old 08-02-2017, 07:59 AM   #21
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See, that is why Glitch's input would be nice.
He created pilgrimage as well as uptiering LGs ,to be an end game gold sink, for people who can afford it.
The game is his livelyhood, not mine, nor yours. And, that is just your opnion, which means nothing to me, as mine means nothing to you, though in either case, it is clear we completely disagree.
An irl pilgrimage ends with elightenment of some sort, and in Nod, it is a greater level. However to plgrim IRl you will likely go where other people usually don't. That does not happen in Nod, so Neco's sugestion of creating a town, or maybe area, where only pilgrims can enter is appealing in that manner.
If Glitch says he will not give anything, I will believe the man, and since Nod, seen in a business perspective is something only he really understands entirely, I won't bother even question his reasoning, as odd as it may or may not sound. It is his creation, and I respect that.
As a gold sink, like lottery, irl, having something to aim for, gives extra motivation. Pilgrimage is comparable to daily work, and you receive your earning which can be compared as enlinghtment or higher level, just like you'd receive your salary.
Through elinghtment comes rewards, which is what I am asking for.
Regardless or your opnion, or mine, I would not go around sayting nothing will, or will not happen. Would most certainly risk burning my tongue, or since this is a computer based dialogue, fingers, eyes, or whatever you wanna call it.
People said that things like the " Loot " buttom function would never be created, and here they are today, or stacks of trophies coming in up to 102 items, instead of the 3 trophies per stack, as it used to be. This is Nod, given enough time, anything can happen.
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Old 08-02-2017, 08:24 AM   #22
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I like the fact you can express your opinion with respect to others - it's rare this days.

Let's see benefits of being 90:

- easier to cap skills to 100 as only last lvl gives full penalties eave 140 skills alone)
- more exp for adventuring

-ability to double your hp

- ability to farm zones 5 lvl higher at similar efficiency which produces way more trophies and gold

- advantage in pvp

-bragging rights

-self confidence and happiness .

And whatever else I missed.

It's true , more things can be added but it would feel like mandatory thing to do in game compared to optional as is for now.

Game evolves and over time one aspect needs to be boosted to match others and orogression/developing economy.

I think we should leave it to Glitchless - he got more than enough "points of view"
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Old 08-02-2017, 11:46 AM   #23
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So lets use dav as example. Erm point one and two stupid every thing maxed. Point 3 pointless he doesnt pvp. 4 I doubt he even farms trophies now. I feel from talking to him his actually prettt fed up and bored with nod. Ask him for his opinion.
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Old 08-02-2017, 12:31 PM   #24
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From what I understand of farming, and I mainly only do pve nowadays, you actually get less trophies being 90 than being 85, based on BGT and MC skill descriptions. So, to find black mobs at lvl 90 mobs, you need to move to fungi, which will have more HP, but presente less trophies than if you were 85, since BGT and MC skills increase gains based on mob level, compared to yours. So that actually becomes detrimental at 90.
Then, you do have the potential to double HP, which in turn will help both PVP and PVE. That is only potential though. Actually doing so will demand you to do other activities intertwined with the pilgrimages like kill beasts and flames.
Even for PVP in clan battles or PK formulas, you will actually suffer a penalty, since you won't be able to kill in CBs unless the other toons are actually 80 ( which if you are 85 turns to them being at the least 75 ), and on PKing escale, you need to be fully open range for a lvl 90 to go after you, where as a lvl 85 could after a 75~85 range pker;
As it is, I don't believe that any lvl 90 is interested in going after PKs or whatever,but the barrier is still there
I am all for the bragging rights, and doing my pilgrimages with my own resources and at my own pace. But, the sugestion DL gave about increasing the ammount of times you can epic task based on how many pilgrimages you've done sounds really good.
Would give back to the player who invested more and less time equaly.
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Old 08-02-2017, 12:46 PM   #25
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I might be wrong but as far I know BGT and MC are mobs HP/lvl 82 mob hp (5k+)

And yes to get full benefits of them mobs need to be black to you.

So indeed you need to farm fungi+ but mobs won't hurt you as much as you were lvl 85
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