Retain Epic Skills Upon Reroll

[Masterarcher]

So these skills requires 100x normal exp to level and are part of the "epic player" description along with epic player health bonus and pilgrimage levels. If health bonus and pilgrimage levels are kept upon reroll, could it be changed so that these epic skills are kept as well? It takes a very long time to raise these to 80+, even with reroller's boon, and once a character has stone and water, affinitae, defiance up that high, this precludes any possibility of rerolling without losing a massive bonus. Thanks for consideration - MA

[neco]

Seriously !!!, why not just ask Glitch to allow you to select which skills you max'd during boon that you don't want and move xp into other skills you want.

Boon and x6 Acc have already made Nod too easy, epic skills really are a joke for booners with x3 trophies anyway.

If anything Glitch should make it harder to stop people booning, maxing easy skills, booning again doing the hard skills in boon, max easy skills and boon again, repeat/rinse until all skills max'd.

Nod has lost its way, its getting too complex but also too easy.

[Smashbros]

Originally Posted by neco

Seriously !!!, why not just ask Glitch to allow you to select which skills you max'd during boon that you don't want and move xp into other skills you want.

Boon and x6 Acc have already made Nod too easy, epic skills really are a joke for booners with x3 trophies anyway.

If anything Glitch should make it harder to stop people booning, maxing easy skills, booning again doing the hard skills in boon, max easy skills and boon again, repeat/rinse until all skills max'd.

Nod has lost its way, its getting too complex but also too easy.

support

[Davross]

I dont support retaining epic skills on reroll

[>.>]

Originally Posted by krimlinger

make <SB> trops unable to go onto epic skills, quick fix

I assumed that was how it worked when epic skills first came out. Since it does hold the tag "this skill is unaffected by boon" when in reality only the passive doesn't work with boon, which is near useless to do even WITH boon.

Changing it so only unsoulbound trophies work with it would be the best choice since pkers could get around it if they pk'd daily. It is an epic skill it should be hard to level pk, boon or otherwise.

But it is too late to change it now. Too many people have already exploited this and have got their affin/s&w to stupid high levels already. Fixing it now would just be like the arena temper thing where the people who got their 8x tempers early then whined it was unfair and got it made how it is now. Best thing to do now is leave it so others can catch the early exploiters.

On Topic: No. It is already piss easy to level affin and s&w with boon, just because you want to reroll now doesn't mean you "save" your work.

[Claudia]

Originally Posted by krimlinger

make <SB> trops unable to go onto epic skills, quick fix

quicker fix... epic skills take 100 times the exp... BUT they take 100 times more trophies and diminish the trophy value. So for level 1 in let's say aff you need 7500 exp (not 100% sure on that but i think it's there). Why cant it be that you need 750000 exp and no trophy penalty? meaning im putting a stcak of 100 redwood spirits into it at 13k / trophy = 1300K instead of 13K / stack... would kill boon a LOT faster if these skills were at normal penalty but with 100 times the exp... and ofc no passives working on them...

Also: NO SUPPORT for retaining them on reroll, I also disagree with most of the skills that ARE retained on reroll but well... another topic for that

[Jadakris]

<facepalm> Do not support this, boon already makes it plenty easy enough to come back.. The real issue here is that you should have thought about a possible reroll long before you reached an extremely high amount of Affi/S&W

But have to agree with Neco, and it is not even just boon. It's BGT and MC too..Trophy skills are a joke really..

[shhhted]

agree in part -

I think ther should be a distinction between PK and Boon sb trops.

Boon sb trophies cant go into epic skills - PK can - we need to get ppl intereested in pking again - seriously how many real pkers are there now.....

I for one dont see any value in it...

[Oneangel]

No support for retaining epic skills upon reroll, but also it would be unfair to remove the use of boon trophies for epic skills now when so many have already used boon to do this.

[Sezr]

To Felix, if affin worked that way you suggested, i would just dump enough trophies to take it to level 79~, and then reroll and have boon to get basically every skill to 100(except epics of course). This would be even more efficient since beastmastery skills get a huge exp boost and can use any trophy. The skills are set up the way that they are as to not make boon even more exploitable.
It would seem that making only un-sb trophies give exp into epic skills would be a decent solution, but in the end I think they should be kept on reroll, since they involve so much time and effort(just like the crafting skills do).

[Oneangel]

Originally Posted by shhhted

agree in part -

I think ther should be a distinction between PK and Boon sb trops.

Boon sb trophies cant go into epic skills - PK can - we need to get ppl intereested in pking again - seriously how many real pkers are there now.....

I for one dont see any value in it...

I don't see why we need player killers or need to give further incentive to be one. With real clan war there is far more pvp than there ever was and I can't see what pks add to this other than points going towards an arbitrary points tally instead of building clan dominance.

[Jadakris]

Game has changed entirely to much for it to even be worth PKing to be honest.. Why PK when you can just make 1 alt and go farm a high level zone and get more trophies lol..

So let's please be realistic and not try to get something changed because of the PK system because alot of people who didn't want to reroll and didn't realize how easy it was to come back.

Having these skills carry over, or having boon effect them actually carry little to no effect on the skills believe it or not.. yea slightly faster, but you should be greatful. Alot of things people don't realize about suggestions like this are that the idea of boon is to put you back into the game quickly..these two skills are required in order to do that, and even WITH boon it's pretty hard because you also have atleast 50+ skills that need leveled up aswell.

But if you think cutting off yet ANOTHER benefit for newer players because you either
A.) Are too scared to boon yourself
B.) Used boon to your advantage and want to keep a gap from other being able to do the same or
C.) Have a proper build, and actually planned things out before you did them.

The majority of the people here are A and B.

[Jadakris]

Point is, the system is actually quite fine how it is.

[chloe]

Originally Posted by Jadakris

C.) Have a proper build, and actually planned things out before you did them.

takkem rerolled loads, and not once has he done that

[chloe]

point is some people like to reroll, some people dont, you should not be hindered or shafted by the game for keeping an original toon without needing to rebuild your entire character, which it seems to be with boon these days.

i could try to argue till im blue in the face, but ill just add my 'vote' of no support.

[Glitchless]

This won't happen.