server 2

[grumblychunk]

all valid points but something needs to be done as mentioned before atm glitch is just giving 1 person 2 tcs every day (more or less). occasionally someone finds it 1st. also it isnt our fault tht the lgs were released or tht it is a copy of s1. Why should we lose all our hard work and effort and spent tcs.... it wont affect s1 tht much for us to move over.
I agree should have been a legacy server.... would have been way more popular

[ShadeDaScout]

glitch is just giving 1 person 2 tcs every day (more or less)

you just keep bringing an argument of "I refuse to improve so I can whine" :[

[Holyspirit]

Here is a take of actual fully developed player on S2:

The truth is I paused on S2 because there is not much to do .
I'm not participating in arena as I don't wanna fight against my buddies Bambam or Bitkojn. Besides I'm more co-op person than pvp.

For those you don't know yet: Pale quit the game and reroll all his toons (normal reroll so all his 3+ BILLION worth or so gear got lost.
It's nothing extraordinary to it , but the fact he was supplying (blissing ) 100-200 tcs a month that kept many toons paid.
Hatred towards him made him quit for food this time .?

Right now there is no single TC on AH for months which eventually discourage those who cannot buy it for real money.

Those only available will be from arena and daily from beast but shaded gets them and stash safely (nothing wrong with that - he got proven system to always find and kill a beast and there is no competition)

There is number of issues here due low population and divided players . To sustain r6 runes a massive rp per capita is required which makes you work a lot for just rp .

Anyways let's keep it short as we all know the story ...

My point of view is that S2 should be given 1 more shoot.
First of all separate chats to get rid of toxicity and most of all make S2 different for real.
Exact copy with no economy is not appealing.

If it fails and server got deserted , honestly I don't mind to continue on S1 as long my skills and gear will go as well.

[Raidens]

Originally Posted by Holyspirit

Here is a take of actual fully developed player on S2:

The truth is I paused on S2 because there is not much to do .
I'm not participating in arena as I don't wanna fight against my buddies Bambam or Bitkojn. Besides I'm more co-op person than pvp.

For those you don't know yet: Pale quit the game and reroll all his toons (normal reroll so all his 3+ BILLION worth or so gear got lost.
It's nothing extraordinary to it , but the fact he was supplying (blissing ) 100-200 tcs a month that kept many toons paid.
Hatred towards him made him quit for food this time .?

Right now there is no single TC on AH for months which eventually discourage those who cannot buy it for real money.

Those only available will be from arena and daily from beast but shaded gets them and stash safely (nothing wrong with that - he got proven system to always find and kill a beast and there is no competition)

There is number of issues here due low population and divided players . To sustain r6 runes a massive rp per capita is required which makes you work a lot for just rp .

Anyways let's keep it short as we all know the story ...

My point of view is that S2 should be given 1 more shoot.
First of all separate chats to get rid of toxicity and most of all make S2 different for real.
Exact copy with no economy is not appealing.

If it fails and server got deserted , honestly I don't mind to continue on S1 as long my skills and gear will go as well.

Giving S2 'new' stuff that S1 has is just unfair to everyone on S1, where the MAIN community is located. We will not be happy with that, it's already taking months just for updates. I know glitch works hard and companions will be here eventually, but S2 should have always stayed legacy for a reason. All that could be done is to merge S1/S2 for 'fairness' and a NEW s2 which is purely legacy with new additions would please everyone. I respect S2 players and the commitment they have done, I am still very against people being allowed to change to S1 because I see that as unfair. You joined S2 for a reason, being allowed to come to the main S1 with all your gear/items is a bit of a joke.

The only real fair way to do it, is to limit what can be transferred upon changing servers. i.e, you will be rerolled to lvl 1, with half your max xp being retained, learnings/adventuring can stay, only T1 lgs can be brought to keep 'fairness' and all materials can only have a % retained. so a cap of say 20 of each resource is allowed to be brought over. This can be YOUR choice. if you do it, then you know the penalty to do it. If lots leave, it will cripple S2, that is the only problem. Making two servers was always a blind move by glitch, I don't see why he did it with such a low player base, but mistakes can be made, and improvements can be made

[Holyspirit]

Originally Posted by Raidens

Giving S2 'new' stuff that S1 has is just unfair to everyone on S1, where the MAIN community is located. We will not be happy with that, it's already taking months just for updates. I know glitch works hard and companions will be here eventually, but S2 should have always stayed legacy for a reason. All that could be done is to merge S1/S2 for 'fairness' and a NEW s2 which is purely legacy with new additions would please everyone. I respect S2 players and the commitment they have done, I am still very against people being allowed to change to S1 because I see that as unfair. You joined S2 for a reason, being allowed to come to the main S1 with all your gear/items is a bit of a joke.

The only real fair way to do it, is to limit what can be transferred upon changing servers. i.e, you will be rerolled to lvl 1, with half your max xp being retained, learnings/adventuring can stay, only T1 lgs can be brought to keep 'fairness' and all materials can only have a % retained. so a cap of say 20 of each resource is allowed to be brought over. This can be YOUR choice. if you do it, then you know the penalty to do it. If lots leave, it will cripple S2, that is the only problem. Making two servers was always a blind move by glitch, I don't see why he did it with such a low player base, but mistakes can be made, and improvements can be made

Merging servers will mean I'll have everything just pop on S1.

As for pvp 90% of S1 will wipe a floor with my toons. My gear is low/mediocre at most and I don't see why all my few years of endless grind and burning my TCS bought for real money should go to waste.
There was nothing on AH I had to make 3 toons and learn all resourcing and crafting like others did .

I kinda like it - it was way longer and harder way but very satisfying.

The reason I choose S2 is ONLY because it was different . I agree making it identical spoiled all the fun .

As for jeleousy is irrelevant - with chat separated and differences it can be treated as 2 different games - end of story. Everyone can choose how and where they wanna play.

For those who think it's easy on s2 and we should not be granted transfer : I invite you to come over , cap all skills become op find your own resourcess and craft your own gear

Once it's done - your point of view will slightly change .

I do play on S1 this days and I like it . It's lazy playstyle (a bit boring since you have everything at your finger tips)

You want something ? Boom ! it's there waiting for you .

Where was those days when we farmed weeks in FONR trying to find t30 silks 😅. 10 k a piece here still makes me smile ...

[Kirito]

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[Glitchless]

There doesn't seem like transferring servers from S2 to S1 would have any negative impact on S1. The experience bonus had by players there doesn't make up for the extra work required having to farm everything on your own. There would be no power disruption.

We'd like to gauge the actual interest and see how many players would want to take advantage of a transfer.
If you would like to transfer characters from S2 to S1, keeping everything, at the cost of 5 TCs, per character please e-mail help@nodiatis.com. List all the characters you are interested in transferring.

If we go through with the transfer and it does wipe every paying player from S2, we would consider merging the servers. In that case, anyone who paid 5 TCs to transfer would have those TCs reimbursed.

[Umbrastar]

Speaking as apparently the only s2 resident who does not wish to move servers, here are my thoughts / criticisms...

A) The server was pushed to be exactly identical to s1 WAY too quickly. S1 had a substantial player base before the level was ever raise to 70 let alone 85 with a chance to pilgrimage to 90. While this is obviously in the past and can not be undone, I moved from s1 to s2 because it was identical to the game before all the "upgrades" and things were introduced and made the entire experience more enjoyable for me.

B) The constant changes with the epic beast have made going after it on s2 with such a small playerbase a joke. As has been expressed one player with his 3 toons has a monopoly on this market to gather timecards and there is little to nothing anyone else can do about it. I do not have a fix for this situation, merely pointing it out.

C) As expressed there is no way to purchase timecards off the auction (or pretty much anything for that matter) and I actually find that appealing. I love the fact that I have to work so hard to get what I want. While in this era of instant gratification, I can see as to how this is frustrating to those without my mentality on the subject.

D) If you allow those that do wish to move servers (mostly the high levels) then you have basically killed the server completely and this is an entire waste of time. Without the few high level toons that are on the server, the low level toons can not get any epics crafted or help with anything including just general game knowledge since most s1 players have non-paids in chat hidden and those that don't seem to have a very condescending attitude towards new player regardless of server.

E) While I know I am in the vast minority of people who prefer the second server and that my thoughts are meaningless on this subject, merging the servers would in fact make me quit the game. I have played since 2009 and have found it much more enjoyable on s2 considering the added difficulties in obtaining things I desire. If I wished to play s1 I would play s1 considering I have 3 completely upgraded and fully legendary toons on that server. I just do not wish to play there.

There are just my ramblings and bring on the criticisms because I frankly don't care. I just feel that the added challenge of obtaining what you desire on s2 makes the game more enjoyable. I found it boring on s1 since everything was there for the taking. After almost 10 years on this game, without the challenge there is just no point.

- Umbra


Edit: I have one more thing. The 3 vs 3 solo q season already does not work on s2 because of the small playerbase. 3 vs 3 premade will be difficult at best letting everyone move servers, you can forget the solo Q version of 3 vs 3. This leaves only one arena type (the solo Q 1 vs 1) as the only viable arena format on s2. I do not see how this would generate more arena participation. I think it would do the exact opposite.

[Freakymagic]

Originally Posted by Glitchless

There doesn't seem like transferring servers from S2 to S1 would have any negative impact on S1. The experience bonus had by players there doesn't make up for the extra work required having to farm everything on your own. There would be no power disruption.

We'd like to gauge the actual interest and see how many players would want to take advantage of a transfer.
If you would like to transfer characters from S2 to S1, keeping everything, at the cost of 5 TCs, per character please e-mail help@nodiatis.com. List all the characters you are interested in transferring.

If we go through with the transfer and it does wipe every paying player from S2, we would consider merging the servers. In that case, anyone who paid 5 TCs to transfer would have those TCs reimbursed.

Would there be an option to transfer toons to S2? Not going to lie, would be well worth 10 tcs if i can move alts to t2, build xp and skills and then move back to s1.

[NoRemorse]

migrating back and forth is a really bad idea and gives an unfair advantage to those who do, best of both worlds, please do not do that glitch

[Glitchless]

Won't be any S1 to S2 transferring.

[Darklords]

Originally Posted by Glitchless

There doesn't seem like transferring servers from S2 to S1 would have any negative impact on S1. The experience bonus had by players there doesn't make up for the extra work required having to farm everything on your own. There would be no power disruption.

Did you take into account the years they used pk status to get unlimited 3x exp ontop of this upgrade?

I was also told by Glitchless inc multiple times servers would never be merged...

[Zaark]

Originally Posted by Darklords

Did you take into account the years they used pk status to get unlimited 3x exp ontop of this upgrade?

I was also told by Glitchless inc multiple times servers would never be merged...

don't assume we all abused that pk thing

[Qratos]

I"m going to create a toon on S2, to gain high xp pool real quick and then port to S1. With 11 years of knowledge from this game, this will be super easy. The added exp% bonus, plus the super small player base to not PKK me, this should be easy.

I don't support this change. My 2 cents.

[Holyspirit]

Originally Posted by Qratos

I"m going to create a toon on S2, to gain high xp pool real quick and then port to S1. With 11 years of knowledge from this game, this will be super easy. The added exp% bonus, plus the super small player base to not PKK me, this should be easy.

I don't support this change. My 2 cents.

Imo it's perfectly fine . Come over bliss for upgrades and go pk.

As easy as its sounds you might be surprised it's not.

No runes and no AH does make it hard ... try and see.

But seriously : I made toon on s1 and sold 2 TCS which I spent on trophies and got little over 4 B extra total exp....

Woldn't be easier to bliss 5 tcs instead on S1and get 10 B exp (probably easier involving social) then have acces to plvl and every piece of equipment you want ? Then reroll twice and your learnings are fixed in no time .

I respect your opinion but your plan is not going to work.

[Holyspirit]

I think it might be a good idea to let transfer from s2 to S1 stay permanently.

This way (at cost of only 5 TCS) anyone from S1 who was aftaid to try and invest on S2 now has a chance to do so .

There will be many that will find s2 style more challenging /interesting and those who will go back to s1

However we could see players hungry for "easy exp" let them come and get it .
Who knows maybe some blissers will show up and revive economy.

I'll stick around with my crafters/resourcers for a while and see how things go , to help those who might be serious about s2

[Darklords]

so the server known for exploiting the crap outta the game, can switch for a meer 5 tcs.

so make an alt, keep main on s2, hunt beast daily, after 2 - 3 weeks u have 20+ tcs give them to the N alt who then switches to s1, u just gained 15 tcs on s1 for no effort w/e.
^
this is an exploit which will happen.

[Qratos]

you won't even have to port them over for 5 TCs... Glitch just said if the servers end up merging (which they will) those that paid get their 5 TCs back. So just create a new toon on s2 with the bonus and wait it out till the merge and BOOM, new alt with loads of xp and beast TCs from the hunts mentioned by DL

[Holyspirit]

There's 4 TCS to be taken on both servers so it doesn't matter if someone make a toon just to keep finding a beast . Number of tcs stays the same .

And good luck trying to steal it from shaded

[Lakki]

Originally Posted by Qratos

you won't even have to port them over for 5 TCs... Glitch just said if the servers end up merging (which they will) those that paid get their 5 TCs back. So just create a new toon on s2 with the bonus and wait it out till the merge and BOOM, new alt with loads of xp and beast TCs from the hunts mentioned by DL

we can only hope that the server exp bonus doesn't get exploited. if the merge took 3 months to do or w/e then yeah, plenty of toons could level up real fast, and move over to this server. but if it takes say just a month, the damage would be minimal. granted yes its not fair, i understand the 33% exp bonus was just an incentive to get people to play the server, but unfortunately the server had little to no success.Hopefully with the merge, the players of S1 and S2 can get along, the nerfs they caused the game ( unable to escape beast, having to heal up for beast for bonus, beast having a set timer, etc.), and much more high levels of frustration, and the confusion for new players about which server to choose, or just simply being turned off by seeing how dead server 2 is, will all soon subside.

Why the Merge will be beneficial #1 Mat prices should stabilize and resources will be more readily available due to more caps. # 2 More arena competition since we will have more teams / players should make PVP more exciting overall. # 3 New players won't have to be confused about which server to go to, and will have adequate help readily available to them from all of the beginner clans available to them. #4 No more cross-server arguments / toxicity

all i got on the topic