Something new for crushers

[Master]

Lol, support

[Valor]

High level mobs used to take less than max damage from melee. Glitch released a patch (v.1348) which removed this ability from high level creatures so that melee can also do full max damage to high level creatures. This was a favor to crushers more than other weapon types. See this post:

http://forums.nodiatis.com/forums/sh...17&postcount=7

Then glitch realized that slashing and piercing weapons had fallen behind in DPS and added Slice and Dice for slashers and improved Hemorrhage skill for piercers to compensate it and made them even with crushers DPS against high end mobs.

So, whatever he wants to add for crushers doesn't seem to be a DPS buff because it will doom other weapon types to fall behind again.

[devil]

i am a crusher and seriously been considering going something else like piercer

[Smashbros]

Originally Posted by devil

i am a crusher and seriously been considering going something else like piercer

cause pierce is OP

[Master]

Might as well, I know someone who can 1hit kill almost everytime in Nlake with a piercer and this person only has 2 t1 lg arms and rest is like 88 gear and skills are not all there...

My crusher would almost kill it in 1 hit, not close enough... THEN if I don't miss the next long delayed hit I can possibly finish it off...

Im not saying one thing is better than the other, im just saying I would like to see what ever glitch is planning so I can go from there for what I wanna do in arena... Atm I will use the 2hand lg piercer or the new 2hand slasher when I form my real team because the dps on the 2 are just sickening

This is from my judgment, of having every single melee skill at 100, not 1 is below 100. using proper stats for each weapon. So imo my observation is about as fair as it can get. but I make mistakes too

[Hoodrat]

Originally Posted by Glitchless

We have something for crushers in mind. Not necessarily a buff, but an alternative to stun-lock if desired.

It has nothing to do with a DPS buff, it is an alternative skill for other purposes, assuming some variety for PvP.

STUN LOCKS ARE NOT GOOD ENOUGH BECAUSE OMG ANTISTUN AURAS

[chloe]

will archers get an alternative to blind as...

BLINDS ARE NOT GOOD ENOUGH BECAUSE OMG ANTIBLIND AURAS

[Sanluciferr]

If stuns are fine, you cant add aoe stuns that would be brutal and if there already is with the new gems... omg is all i can say.

Blind is op as well against melee , ranged and pets but i dont think that aura is actually needed, cause bows dont really have less than 34seconds delay average and is only 1 bow, arrow rain doesnt proc that often but it could be one potential aoe blind..

The real issue with stun is that whips delay is really fast like always around the 20seconds and you have the option to have 2 though and there is also options to stun with crushers 1h and 2h and staff(also crusher ofc, 2h) hence why stoic is actually really needed.

So overall its balanced but if you want to go hardcore, u can almost perma lock teams if u use stun gems as well... there is no blind gems, perhaps could be a nice addition? of course archers like Chloe would cry about it but does he actually know the potential of archers with the new range aoe aura? like u can keep blinding, trishotting, shaft, etc many targets ignoring taunts, if you ask me archers got the lead with this aoe range/melee/pets attacks.

Now to be more specific in relation to the title, crushers dont need a buff or something new for PvP at least, so if you talk about PvE..well i could see it a little bit i guess just cause 1 single issue: Piercers, Whippers and Slashers could get an edge due of the stats issue that complement a bow ambush just perfect, if you know what i mean.

[chloe]

i was neither whining nor asking for a buff, rather i was mocking people for whining for something.

as it is, i really dont see why crushers should get an alternative over there proc, which is to stun, which cannot be cleansed, effects archers, bm, melee and casters and can only be stopped with an aura, whereas archers have blind, which is only effective against melee, bm and archers, CAN be cleansed and doesnt really stop any caster with half a brain, and can now be stopped with an aura too.

hence why i was mocking crushers when they, in my opinion have it better than the ranged proc. at no part did i ask for a buff or say how (i may or may not) think it is unfair to archers,

[Master]

Oh speaking of archers... Are there any other builds that has a chance to hit you each time you get hit then follow it up with the actual hit delay? Cause that's a insane bonus of archers it's self.

[chloe]

i didnt understand the second part, but deflect is pretty close i guess

[Master]

I'm driving ATM lol.. Sorry, yes deflect but my point is archers get more op bonuses than just blind... So let's not pretend that blind is the only thing going for archers please

Also deflect is not a build tool it's a shield. Which in turn makes a op archer because you can shoot, then shoot when stricken also while deflecting as well.... Is so sick then add kiting and one on nature and all that jazz... Come on girly, archers are better than you give credit

[Master]

I'm driving ATM lol.. Sorry, yes deflect but my point is archers get more op bonuses than just blind... So let's not pretend that blind is the only thing going for archers please

Also deflect is not a build tool it's a shield. Which in turn makes a op archer because you can shoot, then shoot when stricken also while deflecting as well.... Is so sick then add kiting and one on nature and all that jazz... Come on girly, archers are better than you give credit

[Master]

Don't know how I double posted that, sorry

[Hoodrat]

Originally Posted by Master

I'm driving ATM lol..

GREAT job, Thorin !

[Master]

im driving 5 mph thanks to all this snow... ill be alright lmao

[devil]

driving while on teh forums = OP

[Master]

no no no don't do this at home kiddos.. Im a highly trained professional!

Oh and I have no life.. but oh wellls

[devil]

awww thorin stop ruining all teh lil kids dreams and let them live.....but seriously i want a beer

[Master]

Im drunker than the fisherman close to castile atm... just not as gay, even drunk im not that gay