Potential LG Drop Change

[beetdabrat]

Support!

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[Hoodrat]

I think one TP and one pet per person would be nice. The people can choose to sell the TP or make a master for more of a profit. This would also put more LG pets on the market which would even out the playing field after a few kills !!!!

[Ashen]

I support this. Great idea glitches. Just I'd like it better if the drop were one actual item and two tp's of that item. Just randomized who gets what.

[Trojan]

I support 3 tps that way if all 3 choose to find a trust worthy crafter they may still have a chance to have a unique weapon for a while . 1 may choose to make a master from his tp or not .

I am a major lg crafter and against monopolies i try offer fair prices . And have made masters and lost gold on them just to offer lower price then some that try to gouge those that want them.

Lg crafting should be expensive is much investment involved it it .

I am against monopolies but at same time i can only think of 3 weapon crafters
Me Dtm and Tygerwulf . 3 whip crafters. 3 fletchers .
Quivers are probably the only item with many crafters.

Many times the individual groups charge far more then thecrafter monopolies that you are complaining about wich leads some to make own masters .

And my main ? how are u going to increase the avaialability of the OP lg pets?
The few that have them atm have a unfair advantage in arena in my opinino

[-Ryiah-]

This is what happens when someone has a monopoly on a certain LG and someone else gets a tp/master and makes cheaper than the person with the monopoly


"Hey, this message is for Trojan, of Nodiatis. I am Ladygagya of Nod. I have heard that Ryiah is sitting your toon. I would like you to know what she is doing with it. We killed the legendary beast which dropped the Lick of Death whip. Of course, we wanted to profit from that. We sold several consumable plans with the express condition that they not be made for resale. Ryiah bought one thru her alt Korbillian, and agreed to that condition. She is now making and selling the whip on Trojan. This is dirty dealing, and if she has your permission to do this, then you are a scumbag by association. Tapa has been kicked from Loony, and unless I discover that you had no knowledge of and did not authorize this action, I will actively campaign against anyone buying anything from Trojan. Beginning with the clan of Loony, which has a lot of big spenders. I will spam uncivil and civil to not buy your stuff. Maybe you are too rich for this to matter to you. I can guarantee you one thing. You will lose money. Maybe you consider all to be fair in the land of Nod, and if that is the case I guess you wont mind my reaction. If you do care, even a little, about your reputation as a player and a crafter, you will rectify this situation. Later."

So yes, i bought a tp when they first dismantled it, when i bought the tp, there were no conditions put on it til the following day. I actually bought the whip tp to make for Roguetiger, but after speaking with him he said he didnt want it, so i gave the tp to trojan, and it sat in his storage/invent for a few weeks.

So I welcome this change and support it 100%

[hotshot64]

Originally Posted by -Ryiah-

This is dirty dealing, and if she has your permission to do this, then you are a scumbag by association. Tapa has been kicked from Loony, and unless I discover that you had no knowledge of and did not authorize this action, I will actively campaign against anyone buying anything from Trojan.

I don't get this. We already knew Trojan is a scumbag.

[Trojan]

Yes destroying the crafter monoply that u guys complain about is the player bases job not glitches .
Any 1 can buy any lg avalaible and take apart and compete in lg tp sales . If u lack the skill to craft and cant include that in your fees you are not offering the same service . Even if this leads to free tps the few that can craft such items can charge as much or as little as they like .
I have done it and so can you .

So i edit my support to make drops of 2 pets and 1 item .... no tps ... no masters ...
what the group decides to do with them is up to them . If they offer crafting of item thats up to them they can handle it in private and only to friends if they want to keep out off others hands . In the end if demand is high and many complain of price some 1 will make another master and make some quick cash and competion .
And hope that if is a solo kill they only get 1 drop ... as so many times some 1 gets the lucky spot of fighting the beast for a insta win.

The problem with lgs are so few crafters if you dont like it or think is much to gain make yourself a toon that can do it and jump in the market.

Till more people can craft the crafters will be able charge whatever they want for a craft master or not .

[SiSiX]

Respectfully removed

[Trojan]

Adding weapons to store would destroy crafting as store price is usually lower then what u can get mats for, store price is the costs of resins almosts in crafting so no support to put em in a store

[Sanluciferr]

Make it so it drops 1 Legendary, 1 TP and 1 Master:

- Legendary beast drops a new legendary, drops an already known TP and drops an already known Masters. (1 to each group member, random)

- Legendary beast spawns less frequent.

- Legendary beast drops no gold.

Exceptions:

* If Legendary beast is killed by 1 it drops a new Masters.

* If Legendary beast is killed by 2 it drops a new TP and a known Masters.

* If Legendary beast is killed by 3 it drops a new legendary, known TP and known Masters (1 to each group member, random).

Just imo, i think it is self explanatory and this way it will reduce teh inevitable monopoly and it will be more fair/equivalent for everyone.

Imo, Tbh, Inl.

[Oneangel]

I support this idea in general. The legendary beast idea initially I thought was great but over time have disliked more and more for boosting a random toon a massive amount (I do realise if I had killed a beast I may not be quite so against it). However, even with this change, unless pets are able to be bred, nurtured, bought from store etc. then I feel this patch will have absolutely no impact at all. At the mo, dispute high prices, lg weps are available to be bought if there is a demand for them.

[Atropos]

I Support 3 master drops.

[Atropos]

And my main ? how are u going to increase the avaialability of the OP lg pets?
The few that have them atm have a unfair advantage in arena in my opinino

Very true. Geef pet crafting system! xD

[Iesus]

Support the main idea for both master and consumables and also suggest to drop lg's in the main game in a way that will not affect much the game itself. Perhaps 1 out of 20 or 30 or 40 epic drops could be an LG one instead from one level and above ofc.

[concede]

LG weapons are spendy when they first come out because they are unique. so they should have some cost attached. those who have control of the market have control because that is an aspect of the game they enjoy and without others raising those skills they wont have to worry about someone attempting to take over.

DTM Inc. charges 200k? to craft most of the items they have available if you provide mats. good deal imo.

Look at all the toons with LG weapons. If someone wants something they can work towards it. This topic is kinda like when cap was 70 and those who could farm 78 armor and 81 slashers had control and charged what they wanted. They spent the time and effort.

Bottom Line. The way weapons drop are fine, half the capped toons have one.

Pets are the issue here, as has been addressed multiple times. Give a solution to that and you resolve this issue

[Atropos]

COncede is right. Pets are the problem, unable to be crafted they cause unfair disbalance with their limited amount in the game. All those repeated pet drops only delay next weapon drops. Also they limit players creativity of making hybrids and interesting builds again cause of their uncraftability. People bid crazy amounts of cash/gold for good legendary pets, once again - cuz they can not be crafted... So i would say that only lucky or rich toons can get the pets. Thats just not right at all. Making a pet crafting system would be the next great huge update.
But on the other hand, after people get acces to pets, possible tactic with 3 Bm with 6x armored companions will one hit anyone by focusing on one person, even with all HP bonuses its impossible to survive and win without angel ca, cuz they can get rid of anyone at openings. Pet procs balance makes no sence to me : One Timmy = Earthfusion Helm, Earthfuion BP, 2 Striggi legs, Heavens shock bow procs together... Was Just my opinion tho.

[TemariChan]

Lateness...

But it's got my support.

[beetdabrat]

Originally Posted by krimlinger

This is ****ing stupid... Even if I am lucky enough to kill the LG beast, I will have to pay millions in mats to make the damn thing. What about the poor unsuspecting noobs that get a chance to kill it and succeed... WTF are they supposed to do with it? Patch sucks and is the stupidest idea ever implemented imo

They can sell the master to a crafter for a profit or keep it. They will eventually be able to craft them if the play long enough. The old way. If you were lucky enough to kill the beast you may not have gotten the item and you would split the profits with your teammates anyway in most cases, or you would pay your teammates millions to take the item fairly.

Beet Da Brat